About this episode

Francis Fukuyama discusses the decline of Western civilization and the crisis within the liberal international order.

Get your copy of Gita Wirjawan’s book, “What It Takes: Southeast Asia”, NOW: https://books.endgame.id/ Also available on Amazon: https://sgpp.me/amazon/ Leave your review here:www.goodreads.com/book/show/241922036-what-it-takes------------------Francis Fukuyama argues that Western civilization is waning, and America can no longer agree on what it's even defending.In this episode, Professor Fukuyama discusses the deepening crisis within the liberal international order, as well as the symptoms and impact of America’s long-term decline.------------------About the Guest:Francis Fukuyama is a senior fellow at Stanford University's Freeman Spogli Institute and one of the most influential political theorists of the past three decades. Best known for “The End of History and the Last Man”, his work spans liberal democracy, political order, and institutional decay.About the host:Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur and educator. He is the founding partner of Ikhlas Capital and the chairman of Ancora Group. Currently, he is teaching at Stanford as a visiting scholar with Stanford's Precourt Institute for Energy.------------------

People in this episode

Host: Gita Wirjawan

Guest: Francis Fukuyama

Topics covered

• Western civilization
• political theory
• liberal democracy
• institutional decay
• America's decline

Keywords

• Western civilization
• decline
• political theory
• liberal democracy
• America
• institutional decay

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Stanford University, Freeman Spogli Institute, Amazon, Goodreads

Products: What It Takes: Southeast Asia

Books & works: The End of History and the Last Man

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