About this episode

The episode features an interview with Adriel Desautels discussing the shortcomings of penetration testing and the impact of AI on security.

Interview with Adriel Desautels - the pentest is broken Adriel joins us for a discussion on the state of penetration testing, why it hasn't done much to help security teams over the last 20 years, and why AI won't save it. Segment Resources: https://hbr.org/2026/04/boards-are-falling-short-on-cybersecurity https://www.scworld.com/perspective/how-to-build-a-breach-ready-security-posture-without-the-enterprise-price-tag https://netragard.com/blog/what-is-penetration-testing/ Topic: Why Meta is destroying its engineering organization The titular essay: https://newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/why-is-meta-destroying-its-engineering A very interesting analysis of what's going on inside big tech companies as they try to dogfood their own AI hype and tokenmaxx themselves into oblivion. There have been a LOT of stories on this, but this is the most comprehensive and enlightening. A few more are linked below. This is relevant to security, because heavier AI use appears to be linked to a much higher occurrence of availability and security issues. 'Tell Him He's a Piece of Shit': Meta's New AI Unit Is a Total Mess The Newest Instagram "Exploit" is the Goofiest I've Seen Meta CTO Andrew…

People in this episode

Host: Security Weekly Productions

Guest: Adriel Desautels

Topics covered

• penetration testing
• AI in security
• Meta's engineering issues
• enterprise security news
• cybersecurity challenges

Keywords

• penetration testing
• AI
• Meta
• cybersecurity
• engineering organization
• enterprise security
• security teams

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Meta, Harvard Business Review, Netragard, Pragmatic Engineer

Books & works: Why is Meta destroying its engineering

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