Fear Is Not Going to Save Us From AI

Fear Is Not Going to Save Us From AI

From Firewall with Bradley Tusk by Firewall

June 11, 2026 · 51 min

About this episode

Daniel Schreiber discusses how AI can generate wealth that can be redistributed to alleviate poverty without raising taxes or punishing innovation.

But a concrete economic plan for extreme job losses just might. Daniel Schreiber, CEO of Lemonade and founder of the MOSAIC AI Policy Institute, joins Bradley to make a surprisingly hopeful case. The enormous wealth generated by AI can be captured and redistributed in a way that leaves almost everyone better off, he argues, without raising taxes, punishing innovation, or trusting politicians with a slush fund. "Poverty should end in the era of abundance," says Schreiber. "It should simply end." This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media . Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack .

People in this episode

Host: Bradley Tusk

Guest: Daniel Schreiber

Topics covered

  • AI
  • economic policy
  • job loss
  • wealth redistribution
  • innovation
  • poverty

Keywords

  • AI
  • job losses
  • economic plan
  • wealth redistribution
  • poverty
  • innovation
  • MOSAIC AI Policy Institute

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Lemonade, MOSAIC AI Policy Institute

Places: New York City, P&T Knitwear, 180 Orchard Street

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