FHC #225: Kindness, burnout and the limits of medical leadership

FHC #225: Kindness, burnout and the limits of medical leadership

August 18, 2026 · 50 min

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The episode discusses burnout, kindness in leadership, and lessons from international healthcare practices.

In this Unfiltered episode of Fixing Healthcare , Drs. Robert Pearl and Jonathan Fisher join cohost Jeremy Corr for a wide-ranging conversation about burnout, kindness, leadership, medical errors and what American healthcare can learn from other nations. The episode begins with Fisher’s recent trip to Australia, where he joined physicians and other healthcare professionals for a program focused on individual well-being, organizational well-being and burnout. Held near Uluru, on sacred Aboriginal land, the gathering included conversations with tribal elders about the connection between land, culture, traditional remedies and healing. Fisher explains that some Australian hospitals have incorporated Aboriginal traditions alongside Western medicine, not as a replacement for modern care, but as a way to build trust and honor patients’ cultural identity. That approach, he says, has helped Indigenous patients feel more respected by the healthcare system. Pearl connects the discussion to a larger economic reality. Although the United States spends far more on healthcare than other nations, many countries are facing the same underlying pressure: medical costs rising faster than wages, GDP…

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