Three Pieces of Salt: A Grandmother’s Fight for Skylar and Gage

Three Pieces of Salt: A Grandmother’s Fight for Skylar and Gage

August 30, 2026 · 54 min

About this episode

Kathy Jones shares the tragic story of losing her grandchildren to fentanyl poisoning and her journey of advocacy following their deaths.

Trigger Warning: This episode discusses child death, fentanyl poisoning, overdose, CPR, and suicide in detail. Listener discretion is advised. On a snow day in January of 2024, Kathy Jones' daughter went upstairs to wake her two kids for school. Fifteen minutes later, this family's life split into before and after. Skylar was 14, an honor roll student who never met a stranger. Gage was 10, obsessed with dinosaurs and his pet turtle, Vicky. That afternoon, a fentanyl poisoning took them both, and their family went from a hospital waiting room they never got to sit in straight to a coroner's office. In this conversation, Kathy talks about the day that changed everything, the rumors and misinformation that followed, raising her surviving granddaughter, and why she now speaks at the Washington Monument and the White House so that Skylar and Gage are never just a headline. This is a story about a family that did everything right, and lost everything anyway. For The Hayters is a podcast that normalizes hard conversations. Listener discretion is advised. If you are struggling, you can call or text 988 in the US to reach the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline. Interview, narration, and editing…

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Host: Becky Hayter

Guest: Kathy Jones

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Organizations: Washington Monument, White House, Suicide and Crisis Lifeline

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