
Sarah Wilson on Complexity, Collapse and Making Art in the Apocalypse
From Fourth Estate by 2SER
May 28, 2026 · 1h 7m
About this episode
Sarah Wilson discusses her new book and the importance of art and beauty in the face of societal collapse.
Sarah Wilson has lived through almost every era of modern media — from becoming a newspaper columnist in her early 20s, to editing Cosmopolitan magazine and hosting MasterChef Australia, writing bestselling books, podcasting and independent publishing. But in recent years, her focus has shifted toward much bigger questions: how do we live meaningfully in an age of ecological crisis, political instability, information overload and growing civilisational anxiety? In this conversation with Tina Quinn, Sarah discusses her new book, I Eat the Stars, why she believes our resistance to societal collapse needs to evolve, and why making art, finding beauty and embracing uncertainty may be more important than ever. They also discuss why Australian media often struggles to grapple with complexity, the pressures of the modern attention economy, and how Sarah’s own long and unconventional career has shaped the way she now thinks about journalism, culture and the path forward. Get in touch, we'd love to hear from you and 2SER needs you! Head to love2SER.com and tell us your thoughts, or email us at fourthestate@2ser.com. You can also tweet us at @fourthestateau…
People in this episode
Host: Tina Quinn
Guest: Sarah Wilson
Topics covered
- ecological crisis
- political instability
- information overload
- civilisational anxiety
- art and beauty
- journalism
- media complexity
Keywords
- Sarah Wilson
- I Eat the Stars
- ecological crisis
- political instability
- art
- journalism
- media
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Cosmopolitan, MasterChef Australia, 2SER
Books & works: I Eat the Stars
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