How to Run an Institution in an Anti-Institution Era | Better in Person

How to Run an Institution in an Anti-Institution Era | Better in Person

September 1, 2026 · 38 min

About this episode

Anne Pasternak and Michael Roth discuss how they navigate challenges in their institutions amid a culture war.

Anne Pasternak (Brooklyn Museum) and Michael Roth (Wesleyan University) tell Stephen Dubner how they keep the peace in the middle of a culture war. If you'd like to see the video version of Better in Person, you can watch it on YouTube or Apple Podcasts.

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Host: Stephen Dubner

Guests: Anne Pasternak, Michael Roth

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Organizations: Brooklyn Museum, Wesleyan University

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