
Steve Jobs in Exile with Geoffrey Cain
From From The Green Notebook by Joe Byerly
June 7, 2026 · 55 min · Season 1 · Episode 181
About this episode
Geoffrey Cain discusses the overlooked years of Steve Jobs' life after leaving Apple and how they shaped his leadership.
Send us Fan Mail Geoffrey Cain, author of Steve Jobs in Exile, joins Joe to explore one of the most overlooked chapters in Steve Jobs’ life: the twelve years between his fall from Apple and his return to build one of the most influential companies in the world. This episode looks beyond the familiar story of the iPhone, iPod, and Apple’s second act to examine the wilderness years that shaped Jobs into the leader we remember today. After being pushed out of Apple in 1985, Jobs was forced to co...
People in this episode
Host: Joe Byerly
Guest: Geoffrey Cain
Topics covered
- Steve Jobs
- Apple history
- leadership
- business
- innovation
- personal growth
Keywords
- Steve Jobs
- Geoffrey Cain
- Apple
- leadership
- business history
- innovation
- exile
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Organizations: Apple
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