When Your Brain Won't Turn Off with Dr. Tommy Shavers and Carlos Perez

When Your Brain Won't Turn Off with Dr. Tommy Shavers and Carlos Perez

May 31, 2026 · 1h 19m · Season 1 · Episode 180

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Joe Byerly discusses brain training and cognitive performance with Dr. Tommy Shavers and Carlos Perez.

Send us Fan Mail Dr. Tommy Shavers, founder of NESTRE Health & Performance, and Carlos Perez, a retired Special Forces officer, join Joe to explore a powerful idea: the brain is not fixed. It can be measured, trained, strengthened, and improved. This episode was recorded after Joe visited NESTRE’s performance center in Lake Nona, Florida, where he went through their cognitive assessment and brain training process firsthand. What followed was a conversation about performance, recovery, mil...

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