John Tamny & Adam Michel: How Should We Think About America’s Debt?

John Tamny & Adam Michel: How Should We Think About America’s Debt?

December 22, 2025 · 30 min · Episode 70

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The episode features a discussion on America's debt and annual deficit with differing viewpoints from two experts.

On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about the country’s debt and annual deficit. First on the show is John Tamny, President of Parkview Institute, Editor at RealClearMarkets, and author of The Deficit Delusion. Later, we hear from Adam Michel, director of tax policy studies at the Cato Institute and author of the recent essay, “The Deficit Trap.” You can find John on X @JohnTamny and Adam at @AdamNMichel. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Host: Scot Bertram

Guests: John Tamny, Adam Michel

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Organizations: Parkview Institute, RealClearMarkets, Cato Institute

Books & works: The Deficit Delusion, The Deficit Trap

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