AppLovin Bull vs. Bear Case: What Operators Know That Investors Don't

AppLovin Bull vs. Bear Case: What Operators Know That Investors Don't

December 30, 2025 · 1h 51m

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The episode features a panel discussion analyzing AppLovin's market position and future prospects amidst its significant growth and challenges in the ad tech space.

AppLovin just crossed $250 billion in market cap. Stock up 127% YTD. EBITDA margins at 82%. Is this the beginning—or the top? We assembled the most qualified panel possible to break it down: an operator running millions through AppLovin's platform, a gaming-focused financial analyst, and an institutional investor who's seen these cycles before. What emerged isn't your typical bull-bear debate. It's a breakdown of how dominance actually works in ad tech—and what could break it. IN THIS EPISODE → Why AppLovin doesn't need to be better than competitors—just 95% as good → The MAX/Axon lock-in that keeps publishers captive → E-commerce expansion: AppLovin is beating Google on Android → The SEC investigation and deplatforming risk (how worried should you be?) → What one operator's portfolio data reveals about where the cracks are forming → Each panelist's prediction for AppLovin in 2026 SPEAKERS Josh Chandley — President & CEO, WildCard Games Matthew Kanterman, CFA — Director of Research, Blue River Financial Group Brian Peganoff — Former TMT Investor, Founder Timber Advisors Joseph Kim — CEO, Lila Games TIMESTAMPS [00:00] Introduction & Panel Overview [01:22] AppLovin…

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Host: Joseph Kim

Guests: Josh Chandley, Matthew Kanterman, CFA, Brian Peganoff

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Organizations: AppLovin, WildCard Games, Blue River Financial Group, Timber Advisors, Google, Meta, SEC, MAX, Axon

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