
Ep. #49, Dumpster Phoenix with Denise Koessler Gosnell and Kathryn Erickson
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December 10, 2025 · 35 min
About this episode
Rachel Chalmers discusses the themes of burnout and leadership with Denise Koessler Gosnell and Kathryn Erickson, authors of Tech Confidential.
On episode 49 of Generationship, Rachel Chalmers sits down with Denise Koessler Gosnell and Kathryn Erickson to unpack their new book Tech Confidential. Together they explore burnout, leadership, motivation, and the surprising ways our emotional wiring shapes tech culture. It’s a candid, deeply human conversation about transforming toxic systems into something resilient, sustainable, and even joyful.
People in this episode
Host: Rachel Chalmers
Guests: Denise Koessler Gosnell, Kathryn Erickson
Topics covered
- burnout
- leadership
- motivation
- tech culture
- emotional wiring
- toxic systems
- resilience
Keywords
- burnout
- leadership
- motivation
- tech culture
- emotional wiring
- resilience
- sustainability
- joy
Mentioned in this episode
Books & works: Tech Confidential
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