About this episode

Djene Bajalan joins Ben Burgis to discuss the implications of Trump's war announcement regarding Iran and the ongoing conflict.

When Trump announced the war at the end of February, he said the goal was to bring "freedom" the people of Iran. Over and over again in the weeks of fighting, he said he'd settle for nothing less than "unconditional surrender." At one point, he said that if Iran didn't bend the knee he would "destroy" their "civilization." So...what happened? And what's going to happen now? Djene Bajalan joins us to break it all down. Follow Ben on Twitter @JacobinBen [NOTE: The previous account was hacked...

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