About this episode

The episode discusses the significance of endings in storytelling, particularly in the context of the Star Wars franchise.

Endings are tough. But they tell us a lot about what a storyteller, or a company, values. Guest Starring: Alexei Toliopoulos as George Lucas Patrick Tomasso as J.J. Abrams Josh Boerman as Bob Iger Andrew Levins as Adam Driver Christian Byers as Chris Terrio You can and should subscribe to Charlie’s newsletter Queertrash . We have a Patreon if you want to support future episodes of the show, and get monthly bonuses. Matt Smith can always email me at goingroguetansy@gmail.com Please jakonka responsibly. CLIPS Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker The Skywalker Legacy Charlie Rose’s 2015 Interview with George Lucas I will not be linking it on account of the foghorn. The Art of the Cut Episode 28: “Star Wars IX: The Rise of Skywalker” Editor Maryann Brandon, ACE Happy Sad Confused: Oscar Isaac Vol. II MUSIC Fanfare and Prologue from Star Wars Episode IX, Farewell & The Jedi Steps from Star Wars Episode VII - John Williams The Mandalorian - Ludwig Goransson “Cut Trance”, “Screen Saver”, “Space Jazz”, “Marty Gots A Plan”, “Hiding Your Reality”, “Groove Grove”, “Clean Soul”…

People in this episode

Host: Tansy Gardam

Guests: Alexei Toliopoulos, J.J. Abrams, Josh Boerman, Adam Driver, Chris Terrio

Topics covered

• Star Wars
• storytelling
• film analysis
• character endings
• guest interviews

Keywords

• Star Wars
• endings
• storytelling
• film
• analysis
• characters
• interview

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Queertrash, Patreon

Books & works: Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story, Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens, Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker, The Skywalker Legacy, Charlie Rose’s 2015 Interview with George Lucas, The Art of the Cut Episode 28: “Star Wars IX: The Rise of Skywalker”

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