Trump POWERLESS to End Ukraine Proxy War, Europe is Russia’s PRINCIPAL ADVERSARY—Dr. Dmitri Trenin

Trump POWERLESS to End Ukraine Proxy War, Europe is Russia’s PRINCIPAL ADVERSARY—Dr. Dmitri Trenin

From Going Underground Hosted by Afshin Rattansi by Going Underground

May 9, 2026 · 29 min · Season 10 · Episode 31

About this episode

Dr. Dmitri Trenin discusses the implications of the Ukraine proxy war and the geopolitical dynamics involving Russia, Europe, and the US.

On this episode of Going Underground, we speak to Dr. Dmitri Trenin, Member of Russia’s Foreign and Defence Policy Council and former Director of the Carnegie Moscow Center. He discusses the significance of Victory Day amid the NATO-Russia proxy war in Ukraine, what ‘victory’ looks like for Russia in Ukraine and why it is likely to be a long war, whether Russia has failed to seize the opportunities presented by a Trump Presidency and Russia’s reasons for showing restraint, Europe’s increasing involvement in the proxy war, Europe’s use of hostility towards Russia to consolidate itself, why Trump has been powerless to end the war, China’s changing attitude to dealing with the US and why Trump is seeking a pause in the conflict with Beijing, and much more.

People in this episode

Host: Afshin Rattansi

Guest: Dr. Dmitri Trenin

Topics covered

  • Ukraine Proxy War
  • Russia's Foreign Policy
  • NATO-Russia Relations
  • Trump Presidency
  • European Involvement
  • China-US Relations
  • Victory Day

Keywords

  • Ukraine
  • Russia
  • NATO
  • Trump
  • Europe
  • proxy war
  • Victory Day
  • China
  • foreign policy

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: NATO, Carnegie Moscow Center

Places: Russia, Europe, Ukraine, Beijing

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