About this episode

The episode discusses the indictment of David Morens in relation to the Covid lab leak investigation and the implications of Hantavirus exposures.

Is the David Morens indictment science vs. politics, or even political retaliation? This government scientist has been indicted for allegedly conspiring to suppress investigation into the Covid lab leak. Meanwhile, passengers disembarked a ship in Spain after Hantavirus exposures, and we recorded this episode the next day (May 11) because this leaves us in uncomfortable wonder: Are we still vulnerable to the same failures that may have cost millions of lives? We're not here to do much rehash of what we covered in our landmark March 2023 Episode 41, "Covid and the Spillover Gang." There, we presented a thorough case for why the lab leak was a far better explanation than zoonotic spillover. Here, we're bringing you the breaking facts in the Morens indictment, what they reveal about the original investigation, and why they matter today. And here's what might surprise you most: Jim will show how this entire affair — the cover-ups, the politics, the tangled science — can be handled with Grace leading to reconciliation. Two crises. New evidence. A path forward. Start listening. NOTES EP41: Covid and the Spillover Gang - https://youtu.be/T7ZRFtnwBOo White House "five points"…

People in this episode

Host: Jim Babka

Topics covered

• Hantavirus
• David Morens indictment
• Covid lab leak
• science vs politics
• political retaliation
• public health
• reconciliation

Keywords

• David Morens
• Hantavirus
• Covid lab leak
• politics
• science
• public health
• indictment
• reconciliation

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: White House

Books & works: Covid and the Spillover Gang

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