About this episode

This episode discusses the importance of aligning disciple-making with church planting to avoid stagnation in leadership development.

This episode pushes into the tension many practitioners feel: should you aim at making disciples, starting churches, or both? Mark and Dave argue that what you aim for is usually what you reproduce, so vague language creates vague outcomes. They unpack why disciple-making without a church pathway often stalls before leadership, and why church planting without disciple-making DNA creates gatherings that don’t multiply. You’ll walk away with a sharper way to diagnose your work, clarify the goal downstream, and build a pathway from lost to leader and from church start to church health. Save Your Seat for the "The Aquila and Priscilla Pattern" 45 Min Zoom Lab next month: ⁠ https://covomultipliers.com/s/Re6np6 Find Dave on Substack: ⁠⁠⁠ https://substack.com/@damillertime⁠⁠⁠⁠ And Mark on Substack: ⁠https://substack.com/@multiplyingdisciples⁠

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