Makumba, Herbalism & Nature | Jesse Wolf Hardin & Debora Greer
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Jesse Wolf Hardin and Debora Greer discuss the Makumba tradition and its connection to herbalism and nature.
HerbRally listeners save 25% on tickets to the 2026 Good Medicine Confluence (October 12–15 at Ghost Ranch, New Mexico) with discount code HERBRALLY26. LEARN MORE & REGISTER In this episode, Jesse Wolf Hardin sits down with Debora Greer for a thoughtful exploration of Makumba, an Afro-Indigenous spiritual tradition and philosophy of life that weaves together herbalism, ancestry, ritual, and relationship with the living world. Together, they discuss what Makumba is, why it has been so widely misunderstood, and how its teachings invite us into a deeper relationship with plants, nature, community, and healing. They also explore the impact of colonization on our connection to the Earth, the importance of honoring our ancestors, and why Debora believes that "nature is our greatest ancestor." Whether you're an herbalist, naturalist, or simply curious about different ways of understanding our place within the web of life, this conversation invites you to slow down, listen deeply, and rediscover the wisdom of relationship. If you'd like to learn from Debora in person, she'll be teaching three classes at the 2026 Good Medicine Confluence: Herbal Showers and Baths: A Makumba Healing Tool…
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