Episode 49 | From Football to Folk Art

Episode 49 | From Football to Folk Art

February 2, 2026 · 48 min · Episode 49

About this episode

Matt Ledbetter discusses the intersection of football culture and folk art with Julian-Sherrod Summers.

Matt Ledbetter talks with Julian-Sherrod Summers, also known as Red Sanford, about how their shared background in football quietly ran alongside a growing interest in old objects, self-taught artists, and the stories those pieces carry. From there, the conversation opens up into picking, collecting, valuing art, and the long road that led both of them into the folk art world. The conversation moves naturally between football culture, folk art discovery, picking, and the shared duality of living in both physical, competitive worlds and thoughtful, creative ones. Along the way, they talk candidly about how folk art is valued, how artists are discovered, the risks of the art world, and why certain work deserves to be preserved before it disappears. From flea market finds and auction stories to conversations about Black self-taught artists, access, and preservation, this episode moves beyond collecting into questions of visibility, value, and who gets remembered in the art world. Chapters 00:00 | From Football to folk art 03:47 | The folk art table that changed everything 07:25 | Why folk art has no fixed value 11:40 | Selling a Basquiat and pushing outside the art world 18:22 | When…

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