E385: Why Public Markets Need SpaceX, OpenAI & Anthropic

E385: Why Public Markets Need SpaceX, OpenAI & Anthropic

June 8, 2026 · 28 min · Episode 385

About this episode

The episode discusses the blurring lines between public and private markets with insights from Matt Witheiler on late-stage investing and market dynamics.

What if the biggest opportunity in private markets isn’t finding the next startup—but owning the next public company years before it ever rings the bell? In this episode, I sit down with Matt Witheiler, Head of Late-Stage Growth at Wellington Management, to discuss how the line between public and private markets continues to blur. Matt explains why companies are staying private longer, why public investors are starved for growth, and how late-stage investing differs from both venture capital and public equities. We also explore IPO markets, valuation discipline, liquidity dynamics, and why the best companies often justify paying up for quality.

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