
Is ICE More Like the Gestapo or Slave Patrols? Yes.
From How Is This Better? by COURIER
February 20, 2026 · 35 min
About this episode
The episode discusses the historical comparisons of ICE to the Gestapo and explores alternative analogies with historians Ashley Baron and Claire Aubin.
People keep comparing ICE to the Gestapo. But is that the right historical analogy? We we talk with public historian Ashley Baron aka @ashleytheebarroness who went viral making the argument that the comparison overlooks a home-grown analogy. We also speak with Claire Aubin who is a Nazi-era historian and host of the podcast, This Guy Sucked, to break down what the Gestapo actually was — and why the ideology behind it matters more than any one-to-one comparison people point to. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Host: COURIER
Guests: Ashley Baron, Claire Aubin
Topics covered
- ICE
- Gestapo
- historical analogy
- Nazi-era history
- public history
- immigration enforcement
Keywords
- ICE
- Gestapo
- historical analogy
- Ashley Baron
- Claire Aubin
- Nazi history
- immigration
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Organizations: This Guy Sucked
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