New Evidence of China’s Forced Organ Harvesting and a Proposed US Response

About this episode

The episode discusses new evidence of China's forced organ harvesting and the proposed US legislative response to this issue.

In 2020, then Secretary of State Mike Pompeo officially determined that China was committing genocide against the Uyghur and other Turkic Muslim communities. A new book, The Xinjiang Procedure, reports that, in addition to torture, gang rape, and involuntary sterilization and abortion, forced organ harvesting on an industrial scale is a heinous feature of this genocide. For these reports about forced organ harvesting, its author Ethan Gutmann drove under cover to the Central Asian border region with China where he secretly interviewed former detainees of Xinjiang’s notorious concentration camps, where over a million, mostly Uyghurs, were detained. China’s organ transplant sector surged over the past twenty-five years, with the critical support of Western medical transplant training, joint research, technology, grants, and fellowships. Hundreds of Chinese transplant surgeons have been trained in American medical schools despite mounting reports of China’s forced organ harvesting and a failure to verify Beijing’s claims of a solely voluntary organ donor supply. To curb this, last year the US House of Representatives overwhelmingly passed HR 1503, the Stop Forced Organ Harvesting…

People in this episode

Host: Nina Shea

Guests: Ethan Gutmann, Chris Smith

Topics covered

• China
• forced organ harvesting
• Uyghur genocide
• US legislation
• medical ethics
• human rights

Keywords

• organ harvesting
• genocide
• Uyghurs
• China
• US House of Representatives
• Stop Forced Organ Harvesting Act
• Ethan Gutmann
• human rights
• medical ethics

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: China, US House of Representatives, Stop Forced Organ Harvesting Act

Books & works: The Xinjiang Procedure

Places: Xinjiang, Central Asian, United States, China

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