Bonus: the Traitors

Bonus: the Traitors

From I'm a Fan of That! by Vivian Asimos and Holly Swinyard

January 21, 2026 · 45 min

About this episode

Vivian and Olly discuss the differences between the US and UK versions of 'the Traitors' and explore themes of bias and cultural commentary.

Vivian and 'Olly are briefly outside of the Patreon bubble to talk about the Traitors! We chat about the differences between the US and the UK versions, how wonderful a campy gothic horror reality show is, the problem of unconscious bias, and why we love the traitors this year. Some readings: Hyphen - The Celebrity Traitors shows unspoken bias at work The Independent - People of Colour keep leaving the Traitors early. We need to talk about why Vogue - We need to talk about The Traitors and unconscious bias Grazia - Culture Debrief: The Traitors Discourse Is A Reminder That Phrases Like ‘Unconscious Bias’ Are A Cop Out Our Socials Vivian's Instagram Holly's Instagram The Pod's Instagram Buy Our Books! Buy Holly's Book! Buy Vivian's Book! Fan Of That is now on Patreon! Go support us over there! Music for this episode was Nowhere Land by Kevin MacLead Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Logo by Moira Daykin, @mecha_moira on instagram This episode was produced by Vivian Asimos and Holly Swinyard Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

People in this episode

Hosts: Vivian Asimos, Holly Swinyard

Topics covered

  • reality TV
  • unconscious bias
  • US vs UK versions
  • gothic horror
  • cultural commentary

Keywords

  • the Traitors
  • reality show
  • unconscious bias
  • US version
  • UK version
  • gothic horror
  • cultural discourse

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Hyphen, The Independent, Vogue, Grazia

Books & works: the Traitors

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