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Brian Kerr and guest Devon Persing discuss the intricacies of change management and its importance in today's work environment.

Change management, readiness and adoption, otherwise pulling nerds across the chasm. Whatever you call it, it's important work that my guest and I are accidentally getting better at. A conversation with Devon Persing . Discussed: remote work, organizational and individual change, Muppets. • Episode transcripts • Support the show by giving to the planet's most effective nonprofits

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