Matthew Davis on Mount Rushmore and the Histories We Don’t Tell.

Matthew Davis on Mount Rushmore and the Histories We Don’t Tell.

From In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer by Frank Schaeffer

April 15, 2026 · 1h 8m · Season 6 · Episode 15

About this episode

A conversation with Matthew Davis about Mount Rushmore and the deeper historical narratives surrounding it.

This is a conversation with writer Matthew Davis about Mount Rushmore and the story beneath it. What begins as a discussion of a monument turns into something more personal and more complicated. We talk about the Black Hills, the Lakota, broken treaties, and the way history keeps showing up in the present whether we’re comfortable with it or not. Matthew isn’t trying to argue a point. He’s trying to tell the story as fully as he can. And in doing that, a harder question comes up. Why do some ...

People in this episode

Host: Frank Schaeffer

Guest: Matthew Davis

Topics covered

  • Mount Rushmore
  • Lakota history
  • broken treaties
  • personal stories
  • historical narratives

Keywords

  • Mount Rushmore
  • Lakota
  • Black Hills
  • history
  • treaties
  • personal stories
  • historical narratives

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: treaties

Places: Mount Rushmore, Black Hills, Lakota

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