157. BONUS EPISODE: Towards Transformative Adaptation / Manda Scott and Rupert Read

157. BONUS EPISODE: Towards Transformative Adaptation / Manda Scott and Rupert Read

August 23, 2025 · 1h 5m

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Nathalie Nahai interviews Manda Scott and Rupert Read about their book 'Transformative Adaptation' and its approaches to working with nature for a sustainable future.

Hello and welcome to a special episode of In Conversation with Nathalie Nahai – the podcast that explores our relationship with one another, with technology and with the animate world. On this rare occasion, I have the pleasure of interviewing two friends of the podcast – Manda Scott and Rupert Read – about their powerful, compelling and practical new book, Transformative Adaptation. A selection of essays by leading practitioners and pioneers this book lays out approaches for adaptation that work with, not against nature, and it is a theory and a practice, a community and an attitude, designed to support us in imagining and creating a flourishing future even in the jaws of adversity. Rupert Read is an eco-philosopher, academic, author, campaigner, UK Green politician, and environmental activist. Having been a key spokesperson for the Extinction Rebellion movement, Rupert now dedicates his time to the  Climate Majority Project  as its Co-Director. Manda Scott is a Thrutopian novelist, podcaster and smallholder. Formerly a veterinary surgeon, Manda’s novels have been shortlisted for the Orange Prize, the Edgar and the Saltire Award, and she has won the McIlvanney Prize…

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