[Field Notes] The Question of Evil: The Secret Theology of Ufology's Elite

[Field Notes] The Question of Evil: The Secret Theology of Ufology's Elite

From Inquiry with Kelly Chase by Kelly Chase & Jay Christopher King

March 31, 2026 · 14 min

About this episode

This episode explores the contradiction in ufology regarding the moral actions of those in the intelligence community who acknowledge the reality of the soul.

After years immersed in the deep end of ufology, one question has proven impossible to shake: how is it that certain factions of the intelligence community—people who possess more evidence than most that consciousness survives death, that the soul is real, and that we are more than our physical bodies—so consistently engage in profound acts of moral evil? This Field Notes episode explores the contradiction at the heart of anomalous research: the same fundamental knowledge about non-material reality that tends to moralize everyday experiencers, deepening their compassion, ethical sensitivity, and sense of consequence, appears to have the opposite effect in certain institutionalized contexts. Why? And what does that divergence reveal? Kelly argues that the answer isn't hypocrisy, isn't power, and isn't institutional pressure alone. It's theology—not in the formal religious sense, but in the deeper sense: the set of assumptions a person holds about what is real, what matters, and what counts. Every action presupposes a theory of reality. And when someone is willing to deceive, coerce, and harm others in service of a greater purpose, that willingness is not an operational detail…

More episodes of Inquiry with Kelly Chase

Explore listener stats, chart rankings, contacts and more on the Inquiry with Kelly Chase podcast page.