Conversation with Aldo Podestà, Giotto.ai

Conversation with Aldo Podestà, Giotto.ai

From Inside AI by EPFL AI Center

October 13, 2025 · 1h 0m · Season 2 · Episode 5

About this episode

Aldo Podestà discusses his journey and the achievements of Giotto.ai in AI research.

Can a small Swiss lab out-reason trillion-parameter giants? In this episode, Aldo Podestà, founder & CEO of Giotto.ai, explains how his team reached the #1 spot on the ARC-AGI v2 leaderboard—with a ~200M-parameter system scoring 23.19% on an extremely challenging, non-memorization reasoning benchmark. Aldo traces his journey from EPFL math student to entrepreneur, the Kaggle win that sparked the company, and why Giotto spun out a successful vertical product before going 100% R&D. Aldo also talks about why the next big leaps will come from generating small programs to check answers and from better hardware. More info: - https://www.giotto.ai/ - https://arcprize.org/arc-agi Production: Ethan Nyffenegger

People in this episode

Host: Ethan Nyffenegger

Guest: Aldo Podestà

Topics covered

  • AI research
  • entrepreneurship
  • machine learning
  • reasoning benchmarks
  • technology innovation

Keywords

  • Giotto.ai
  • Aldo Podestà
  • ARC-AGI
  • reasoning benchmark
  • AI
  • entrepreneurship
  • Kaggle
  • technology

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Giotto.ai, EPFL, Kaggle, ARC-AGI

Places: Switzerland

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