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Barry Winkless discusses how leaders can create organizations that attract and empower talent while adapting to the future of work.

In this episode of the Inside Learning Podcast from the Learnovate Centre, Aidan McCullen speaks with Barry Winkless, author of Future Work World, Chief Strategy Officer at Cpl, and Head of the Future of Work Institute. Barry explores how leaders can create organisations that attract, retain and empower talent while balancing the need for hyper-efficiency with the reality that organisations are also living systems. He explains why future-of-work change must begin with mindset, introducing three leadership roles from the book: the Destination Designer, the Societal Whisperer, and the Systems Architect. These mindsets help leaders build a shared language before they redesign work, talent, culture or technology. The conversation also explores the four-part journey of Future Work World: mindset, “meta waves”, the “mixing desk” of 16 innovation areas, and “move”, where immersive storytelling helps people emotionally connect with change. Barry shares how music, science fiction and nine fictional near-future vignettes shaped the book’s style. Aidan and Barry discuss “work type salads”, where organisations blend permanent employees, contractors, consultants, gig workers, temporary talent…

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