David A. Graham on Project 2025's assault on American government

David A. Graham on Project 2025's assault on American government

From Ken Cook Is Having Another Episode by EWG

March 10, 2026 · 36 min · Episode 58

About this episode

David A. Graham discusses Project 2025 and its implications for American government with host Ken Cook.

Most people heard about Project 2025 during the 2024 presidential campaign. Far fewer understood what it actually was. The Atlantic’s David Graham wrote the definitive book explaining the sweeping conservative policy blueprint. In today’s episode, David speaks with Ken on how what seemed like a Republican policy wishlist was actually a meticulously engineered, four-part plan for seizing control of the federal government. They discuss how DOGE (the Department of Government Efficiency) helped accelerate the wrecking-ball agenda, why the architects of Project 2025 always assumed Congress would capitulate to their plans, and whether the damage being done to American institutions can ever be undone. The conversation helps us understand what the 2028 presidential election could mean for the project’s next chapter.

People in this episode

Host: Ken Cook

Guest: David A. Graham

Topics covered

  • Project 2025
  • American government
  • conservative policy
  • federal control
  • political strategy
  • 2024 presidential campaign
  • American institutions

Keywords

  • Project 2025
  • David A. Graham
  • Ken Cook
  • American government
  • conservative policy
  • Department of Government Efficiency
  • 2024 election
  • political strategy

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: The Atlantic, Department of Government Efficiency, Project 2025

Books & works: definitive book

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