
Ep 382 | FISA 702 is Unconstitutional | Guest: Rep. Thomas Massie
From Kibbe on Liberty by Blaze Podcast Network
April 22, 2026 · 1h 10m
About this episode
Matt Kibbe discusses the implications of FISA Section 702 on American citizens' rights with Rep. Thomas Massie.
President Trump has been vocal about the deep state using FISA Section 702 to violate his rights and spy on his campaign activities. Now that he is in office, however, he is calling for a reauthorization of this same program, claiming that he is willing to give up his Fourth Amendment protections to support the military, despite not being able to point to a single instance when Section 702 was used to apprehend a terrorist. Matt Kibbe sits down with Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) to talk about the importance of protecting American citizens from government surveillance and how the complete secrecy with which intelligence agencies operate undermines our democracy.
People in this episode
Host: Matt Kibbe
Guest: Rep. Thomas Massie
Topics covered
- government surveillance
- FISA Section 702
- Fourth Amendment
- deep state
- democracy
- American citizens' rights
Keywords
- FISA
- surveillance
- Fourth Amendment
- deep state
- Thomas Massie
- Trump
- government
- intelligence
- democracy
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: FISA, Blaze Podcast Network, intelligence agencies
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