About this episode

Gea and Bill discuss thriving amid adversity, particularly when faced with opposition from people, emphasizing obedience and trust in God.

In this podcast episode, Gea and Bill discuss how to thrive amid adversity, especially when opposition comes from people rather than circumstances. Using Psalm 23, Bill reframes faith as life within a kingdom at war, not a place of constant peace. He explains how misunderstanding this leads to discouragement and self-blame. Through vivid stories from his work in China, including threats to his family and betrayal by colleagues, Bill shows how fear, judgment, and anger can trap believers. Drawing on the Sermon on the Mount, Bill emphasizes obeying Jesus’ commands—loving enemies, releasing judgment, and trusting God as defender. True thriving, he concludes, comes through obedience, surrender, and remaining where God has placed us, even in conflict

People in this episode

Hosts: Gea Gort, Bill Job

Topics covered

• adversity
• faith
• obedience
• conflict
• spiritual growth
• trust in God

Keywords

• adversity
• faith
• Psalm 23
• Sermon on the Mount
• obedience
• trust
• spirituality

Mentioned in this episode

Books & works: Psalm 23, Sermon on the Mount

Places: China

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