About this episode

The episode dives into the 2026 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate tier list with competitive player Lucy "Winters" Hayes.

We know listeners have been requesting more Smash Bros. content, so today we're going deep into the weeds of the Super Smash Bros. Ultimate meta with friend of the show Lucy "Winters" Hayes ( @lucyelise.bsky.social on Bluesky). Lucy is a longtime Smash Bros. competitive player and commentator, and Sean and Gigi are talking with her about UltRank's carefully assembled 2026 SSBU tier list that was just posted in May. ( You can find the list here , and it may be helpful to look at during our conversation.) As Sean and Gigi ask questions about the list, Lucy is more than happy to provide a wealth of knowledge on why the competitive community ranks different characters the way they do. We also discuss what characters may still have unexplored potential, how interested players can start getting involved in their local Smash Bros. scenes., and the other fighting games Lucy's been enjoying lately. Questions or comments about the show? Are there any changes you would make to UltRank's new tier list? We always love hearing from listeners, and you can reach us at mail@kirbyconversations.com or submit your question to us on social media. Sean also has a new podcast covering the GameCube…

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