Andrew Durbin's "The Wonderful World that Almost Was"

Andrew Durbin's "The Wonderful World that Almost Was"

May 29, 2026 · 53 min

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Kate Wolf and Eric Newman discuss Andrew Durbin's biography of Peter Hujar and Paul Thek, exploring their relationship and artistic journeys.

Kate Wolf and Eric Newman speak with Andrew Durbin about his new biography, The Wonderful World that Almost Was: A Life of Peter Hujar and Paul Thek . A joint portrait of two influential yet under-sung American artists, the book follows Thek and Hujar's romance and deep friendship as it parallels their artistic formation. Both New York natives, the two men met in the 1950s, became lovers in the early 1960s, and sustained a complicated relationship until they succumbed to AIDS in the late 1980s. Uncompromising about their work, they have received growing critical interest in recent years: Hujar for his photographs of downtown artists and intellectuals and Thek for his sculptures and installations. But the core of Durbin's book traces a shaky period where each struggled to move forward as an artist while also experiencing aesthetic breakthroughs, travel, and sexual liberation.

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Hosts: Kate Wolf, Eric Newman

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