Episode 279: Burn the Script with Jo Lein
From Leaning into Leadership by Darrin Peppard
May 24, 2026 · 33 min · Season 1 · Episode 279
About this episode
Darrin Peppard interviews leadership coach Jo Lein about the importance of addressing belief barriers in coaching and leadership.
In this episode, Darrin sits down with leadership coach and new author Jo Lein to explore what really drives change in people and organizations—and why most coaching efforts fall short when they focus only on skills. Jo introduces the concept of Disruptive Mindset Coaching , challenging leaders to move beyond surface-level fixes and address the beliefs that shape behavior. Topics Covered: The difference between skill gaps and belief barriers Why people aren’t “uncoachable”—they’re often operating from protective patterns The three common patterns that show up in resistant behavior: Detaching Surrendering Overcompensating How identity, values, and skill all influence leadership behavior Why systems in education are built on underlying beliefs—and how those beliefs shape outcomes The danger of compliance culture in schools What it means to “burn the script” as a leader How leaders can create environments where innovation and growth are possible About Jo Lein: Jo Lein is a leadership coach, writer, and educator who helps leaders break through limiting beliefs and transform practice. She is the author of Burn the Script , where she introduces her framework for Disruptive Mindset…
People in this episode
Host: Darrin Peppard
Guest: Jo Lein
Topics covered
- leadership coaching
- disruptive mindset
- belief barriers
- resistant behavior
- compliance culture
- innovation
- growth
Keywords
- leadership
- coaching
- beliefs
- behavior
- innovation
- education
- growth
- resistance
- mindset
Sponsors
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Mentioned in this episode
Products: Burn the Script
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