Interview Episode: Clare Heath-McIvor

Interview Episode: Clare Heath-McIvor

July 1, 2025 · 1h 24m

About this episode

Clare Heath-McIvor discusses her experiences within the City Builders Church and her advocacy work after leaving the cult.

Clare Heath-McIvor is the daughter of the leader of the City Builders Church, an organisation that she and others who know it feel confident fits the definition of a cult. Her marriage was arranged within the church to Patrick McIvor, a man who had survived gay conversion therapy. Since leaving, the now-happily-separated pair have become involved in a number of social justice issues, including the current Victorian Parliamentary Inquiry into the recruitment methods and impacts of cults and organised fringe groups , and Patrick's work was crucial to the ban on conversion therapy practices in Victoria. Links: Inquiry into the recruitment methods and impacts of cults and organised fringe groups — Parliament of Victoria, open for submissions until 31 July 2025 and due to deliver findings in September 2026 Clare Heath-McIvor's Linktree with her Substack , TikTok , Twitter and more Unchurchable podcast Caring church or crazy cult? The extreme religion praying for power — 60 Minutes Australia, 20 November 2022 Victorian Cult Survivors Network — Facebook group You can support us on Patreon . Sarah Steel's book Do As I Say is available on audiobook . If you have been personally affected…

More episodes of Let's Talk About Sects

Explore listener stats, chart rankings, contacts and more on the Let's Talk About Sects podcast page.