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Pastor Bobby Bogard discusses executive leadership with Daniel Cavazos and Josh Hampstra, focusing on the challenges of leading from the second chair.

In this dynamic and deeply insightful episode, Pastor Bobby Bogard sits down with executive pastors Daniel Cavazos (Resurrection Life Church, Michigan) and Josh Hampstra (V1 Church, nationwide) to talk all things executive leadership. These leaders offer a transparent and practical perspective on “the middle seat”—the unique and often tension-filled position of leading from the second chair. They unpack the challenges and strategies of stewarding both the senior pastor’s vision and the cultur...

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