162: Sanctification - a Journey, not a Destination, Part 2

About this episode

Debra Baty and Garry Ingraham discuss the importance of talk therapy versus medicalization and the church's role in addressing heart issues.

In part two of this thoughtful conversation, Debra Baty and Garry Ingraham continue discussing medicalization versus talk therapy, including Finnish studies that support talk therapy. They also emphasize the importance of doing thorough research on both sides rather than focusing only on the negatives, and the church’s need to focus on the heart without pushing people away.

People in this episode

Host: Garry Ingraham

Guest: Debra Baty

Topics covered

• sanctification
• talk therapy
• medicalization
• Finnish studies
• research
• spirituality

Keywords

• sanctification
• talk therapy
• medicalization
• Finnish studies
• church
• research

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: church

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