Ep. 1382: Joe Pine Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Ep. 1382: Joe Pine Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

From Michael Covel's Trend Following by Michael Covel

March 22, 2026 · 45 min

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Michael Covel interviews Joe Pine about the transformation economy and how businesses can guide customers to achieve their aspirations.

My guest today is Joe Pine. He is an author, speaker, and management advisor to Fortune 500 companies and entrepreneurial start-ups alike. He is cofounder of Strategic Horizons LLP. He consults with numerous companies around the world, helping them embrace the ideas and frameworks he writes about, develop concepts for creating more economic value, and see those concepts become reality. The topic is his book The Transformation Economy: Guiding Customers to Achieve Their Aspirations. In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss: Evolution from experience economy to transformation economy Businesses guiding customers to achieve aspirations Charging based on outcomes instead of time Spheres of transformation health wealth wisdom purpose and meaning Role of AI and personalization in enabling transformation platforms Jump in! --- I'm MICHAEL COVEL, the host of TREND FOLLOWING RADIO, and I'm proud to have delivered 10+ million podcast listens since 2012. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trend following are all passionately explored and debated on my show. To start? I'd like to give you a great piece of advice you…

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