215. Phil Lord and Chris Miller: These 2 Dorks Made Every Movie You Love

215. Phil Lord and Chris Miller: These 2 Dorks Made Every Movie You Love

June 8, 2026 · 49 min

About this episode

Filmmakers Phil Lord and Chris Miller discuss their successful careers and the creative processes behind their hit films.

Filmmakers Phil Lord and Chris Miller’s resume is a laundry list of hits: Project Hail Mary, The Lego Movie, 21 Jump Street, Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, and more. Their success with projects that didn’t initially seem like good ideas has even spawned a verb in Hollywood, “to Lord and Miller” something. Now they sit down with Mike to discuss the positive and negative ramifications of that. They also discuss the test screening process of Project Hail Mary, and working with Nicolas Cage on their new series Spider-Noir. Plus, they reveal the five films that would be on the syllabus of Lord and Miller University.

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Host: Mike Birbiglia

Guests: Phil Lord, Chris Miller

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Organizations: Lord and Miller University

Books & works: Project Hail Mary, The Lego Movie, 21 Jump Street, Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, Spider-Noir

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