
This episode explores psychiatrist Douglas Kelley's work with Nazi defendants and the implications for understanding authoritarianism and propaganda.
This episode dives into history with best-selling author Jack El-Hai to follow psychiatrist Douglas Kelley from wartime trauma work to the Nuremberg prison cells where he tested infamous Nazi defendants and walked away with a conclusion that still chills. Our hosts wrestle with what it means to stop believing in “monsters,” how propaganda exploits ordinary minds, and what Kelley thought democracies must do to resist authoritarianism. The most unsettling Nuremberg detail that is shared isn’t a...
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