20260526 Is Codependency Good?

20260526 Is Codependency Good?

From Modern Love by Ajai Vindication

May 27, 2026 · 43 min · Episode 447

About this episode

Mark Duplass and Katie Aselton discuss their codependent relationship and its impact on their lives and work.

Mark Duplass and Katie Aselton’s lives are completely intertwined. They’ve been married for almost 20 years while collaborating on films, raising children and spending as much time together as possible. The two see the same therapist, are nearly constantly touching each other and find it hard to function when one of them is away, a dynamic they describe as codependent. Their codependency is the inspiration for their new film “Magic Hour,” which they co-wrote and which Aselton directs and stars in. For the couple, codependency has added real depth and beauty to their relationship to the point they think the entire concept needs a rebranding. In this episode of “Modern Love,” Duplass and Aselton make their case for codependency, explain what it has enabled in their lives and share what they’ve had to sacrifice to maintain it. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher . For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for…

People in this episode

Guests: Mark Duplass, Katie Aselton

Topics covered

  • codependency
  • relationships
  • marriage
  • collaboration
  • mental health

Keywords

  • codependency
  • relationship dynamics
  • collaboration
  • therapy
  • marriage

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: The New York Times, Simplecast, AdsWizz

Books & works: Magic Hour

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