Zendaya and Robert Pattinson on Marriage and Secrets

Zendaya and Robert Pattinson on Marriage and Secrets

From Modern Love by Ajai Vindication

April 1, 2026 · 34 min · Episode 439

About this episode

Zendaya and Robert Pattinson discuss the themes of marriage and secrets in their new film 'The Drama'.

In their buzzy new film, “The Drama,” Zendaya and Robert Pattinson play an engaged couple whose relationship is imploding. With their wedding just a week away, Emma (Zendaya) reveals a shocking secret about her past that sends her fiancé, Charlie (Pattinson), into a self-destructive spiral of doubt. The stakes are high for these fictional lovers, but the underlying relationship anxiety is relatable: What if you don’t know the person you love as well as you think you do? What if they surprise you, and that surprise is not good? In this episode, Anna Martin, the host of “Modern Love,” asks Pattinson and Zendaya what these questions mean to their characters, and in their own lives. You can watch a video version of this episode here . Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher . For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

People in this episode

Host: Anna Martin

Guests: Zendaya, Robert Pattinson

Topics covered

  • marriage
  • secrets
  • relationship anxiety
  • engagement
  • self-doubt

Keywords

  • Zendaya
  • Robert Pattinson
  • marriage
  • secrets
  • relationship anxiety
  • The Drama

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: The New York Times

Books & works: The Drama

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