Fire Sam Altman, The End of Software Engineers, and Why AI Is All Narrative

About this episode

The episode discusses the ongoing drama between Anthropic and OpenAI, the implications for software engineers, and the current state of AI development.

This week the squad breaks down the Anthropic vs OpenAI drama (Fire Sam Altman is trending again), debates whether Apple is quietly winning the AI race by spending $0 while everyone else burns $100 billion, and confronts the question no one in Silicon Valley wants to answer: why aren't 200,000 software engineers talking about losing their jobs? Sam's answer: "Because it would be to admit you're in the 200,000 getting fired, not the 200,000 getting paid more." Plus: is China winning the open source AI phenomenon, is a recession coming (Lux Capital thinks so), and how Sam believes “code is just content” despite having built six apps in a week while on conference calls, including an AI clone of the podcast using everyone's real voices. It’s your weekly dive of More or Less. Chapters: 1:30 — Fire Sam Altman Trending Again: Dario's Leaked Slack Memo 10:15 — Sam's Vibe Coding Week: 6 Apps Including AI Versions of the Hosts 17:00 — Why AI Content Tends to Zero 20:00 — Apple M5 Chip: The Local AI Inference Play 23:30 — Block Cuts 40% of Workforce 25:30 — Will 200,000 Bay Area Software Engineers Lose Their Jobs? 30:00 — "Code Wins Arguments — But Now Everyone Can Code&quot…

People in this episode

Hosts: Dave Morin, Jessica Lessin, Brit Morin, Sam Lessin

Topics covered

• AI
• software engineering
• job market
• technology trends
• Silicon Valley
• open source
• recession

Keywords

• Sam Altman
• Apple AI
• software engineers
• Lux Capital
• open source AI
• recession warning
• Silicon Valley

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Apple, Lux Capital, Anthropic, OpenAI

Places: China

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