John Larsen v. John Dehlin - 2026 Edition | Ep. 2171

From Mormon Stories Podcast by Dr. John Dehlin

July 13, 2026 · 2h 56m

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John Larsen returns to discuss his journey from Mormonism to creating influential podcasts and living sustainably.

After years away from the microphone, John Larsen returns to Mormon Stories Podcast for a wide-ranging conversation. A legend in the Mormon and ex-Mormon podcasting world, John Larsen helped shape an entire generation of critical Mormon thought through Mormon Expression. Now, he sits down with John Dehlin to reflect on the journey that brought him here –from his Mormon upbringing and faith crisis to build one of the most influential podcasts in the space, and ultimately stepping away to build a very different kind of life. In this candid interview, John shares what life looks like today: living sustainably, growing much of his own food, working in local government, and creating intentional community. He also opens up about his mission, the questions that led him out of the church, why apologetics never worked for him, his fascination with primary historical sources, and how Mormon Expression came to be. The conversation also explores the rise of Mormon Studies, the challenge of creating content for years on end, community dynamics within the ex-Mormon movement, current events, AI, politics, the future of society, and what it really means to move on after leaving Mormonism…

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