
Dr. Scott Lyons Plus One (Part 1): Why You’re Addicted to Chaos
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March 10, 2026 · 36 min · Season 3 · Episode 9
About this episode
Dr. Scott Lyons discusses his journey from living with drama addiction to becoming an expert on the subject, exploring themes of trauma and connection.
Before Dr. Scott Lyons became an expert on drama addiction, he was living it – weaponizing empathy, chasing crisis to feel alive, and mistaking stress for connection. Now a clinical psychologist, body-based trauma expert, and author of Addicted to Drama, Scott joins hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger for a fearless and deeply personal conversation about chaos, trauma, and the hidden ways we keep ourselves stuck. Joined by his best friend of over 20 years, Nicole Asselin, Scott reflects on the childhood trauma, shame, thrill-seeking, and relational patterns that shaped his life – and how he ultimately broke free. Together they explore: The science behind addiction to stress (and how endorphins keep us hooked) Trauma bonding vs. drama bonding Why chaos can feel safer than peace How to build connection without crisis Turning thrill-seeking into growth instead of self-sabotage Note: This episode includes discussion of suicide and mental health. Viewer discretion advised. Don’t miss Part 2…
People in this episode
Hosts: Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, Craig Kielburger
Guest: Dr. Scott Lyons
Topics covered
- drama addiction
- trauma
- mental health
- chaos
- connection
- thrill-seeking
Keywords
- chaos
- trauma bonding
- drama bonding
- mental health
- stress addiction
- self-sabotage
Mentioned in this episode
Books & works: Addicted to Drama
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