460. Rethinking the Pump Panel - Jason Cerrano

460. Rethinking the Pump Panel - Jason Cerrano

From National Fire Radio Podcast Platform by National Fire Radio Podcast Channel

April 8, 2026 · 1h 40m · Episode 460

About this episode

The episode discusses the SAM system designed to improve water delivery on the fireground, featuring insights from Jason Cerrano.

Jeremy sits down with Jason Cerrano of IDEX Fire and Safety to break down the story behind the SAM system and how it came to life from real fireground experience. What began as a frustrating moment during a routine fire quickly turned into a long term pursuit to improve how water is delivered and managed on the fireground. Jason walks through his background in the fire service and engineering, and how years of observing common problems helped shape the system into what it is today. The conversation highlights the realities of pump operations including missed communication, inconsistent pressures, and the stress that comes with being responsible for water in critical moments. At the center of the discussion is the idea of automation and what it actually means for the fire service. Rather than replacing the firefighter, the SAM system is designed to reduce cognitive load and create consistency, allowing operators to step away from the panel and stay engaged with the fireground. The goal is not to remove skill, but to support it and eliminate unnecessary variables that can lead to mistakes. Jeremy and Jason also dive into the resistance to change that exists across the fire service…

People in this episode

Host: Jeremy

Guest: Jason Cerrano

Topics covered

  • pump operations
  • fire service
  • automation
  • water management
  • innovation
  • safety

Keywords

  • pump panel
  • fireground experience
  • cognitive load
  • communication
  • firefighter safety
  • technology
  • innovation

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: IDEX Fire and Safety

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