Beyond The Sea

Beyond The Sea

From Need To Know by Bryce Zabel

October 20, 2025 · 1h 11m · Season 68

About this episode

Bryce Zabel and Richard Dolan explore the phenomenon of Unidentified Submerged Objects and their implications.

In this Need to Know episode, Bryce Zabel and Richard Dolan dive deep—literally—into the realm of USOs (Unidentified Submerged Objects), as Dolan previews his upcoming second volume in a three-part book series on the subject. Focusing on the 1970s and 80s, Dolan reveals that the 1970s were an explosive decade for both UFO and USO sightings, despite limited public reporting mechanisms. He details hundreds of carefully collated incidents, particularly noting a sharp rise in military encounters, electromagnetic interference, and a sudden statistical shift in sightings occurring under the cover of darkness, especially post-1969. Dolan interprets this as a possible tactic of "data denial," suggesting that these craft operators deliberately avoid surveillance from increasingly sophisticated human technologies. The conversation takes a speculative turn as Zabel and Dolan ponder the intentions and origins of these underwater visitors. Dolan leans toward the view that these are non-human intelligences from elsewhere who have established semi-permanent bases on or within Earth's oceans. Their behavior—ranging from skimming the ocean floor near industrial sites to disabling military…

People in this episode

Host: Bryce Zabel

Guest: Richard Dolan

Topics covered

  • USOs
  • UFO sightings
  • military encounters
  • data denial
  • non-human intelligences
  • ocean exploration

Keywords

  • USOs
  • UFO
  • sightings
  • military
  • electromagnetic interference
  • data denial
  • non-human intelligences

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Organizations: USOs

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