Preview | Theorists Daniël de Zeeuw & Sal Hagen on the post-discursive web (NM 93) 2026

Preview | Theorists Daniël de Zeeuw & Sal Hagen on the post-discursive web (NM 93) 2026

April 12, 2026 · 22 min

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This episode features media scholars Daniël de Zeeuw and Sal Hagen discussing their research on 4chan and its implications for understanding the current communication landscape.

This is preview — to access full episode and all New Models' content, subscribe: https://patreon.com/newmodels & https://newmodels.substack.com We’re joined by media scholars Daniël de Zeeuw & Sal Hagen, who have been closely tracking the weirder end of the internet for over a decade—their research and analysis of 4chan has made them low-key legends within internet studies. As 4chan’s logic is now pervasive across the social web, Daniël and Sal, together with their colleagues at the Amsterdam-based OILab, have been modeling novel ways of thinking about our current communication space that travel well beyond the network media / public sphere template to something far stranger — and more accurate. For more: https://oilab.eu/ https://salhagen.nl/ https://www.uva.nl/en/profile/z/e/d.dezeeuw/d.dezeeuw.html Hagen, S., de Zeeuw, D., & Venturini, T. (2025). Digital Rhythmanalysis: Studying Memetic and Affective Rhythms on the Post-Viral Web. Platforms & Society, 2. de Zeeuw, D., Birchall, C., & Knight, P. (2025). On Psyop Realism. Cultural Politics, 21(2), 240-257 Hagen, S. (2024) Reactionary Rhythm: Quali-quantitative studies of 4chan/pol/. PhD thesis, University of Amsterdam Hagen, S…

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Guests: Daniël de Zeeuw, Sal Hagen

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Organizations: OILab, University of Amsterdam

Books & works: Digital Rhythmanalysis: Studying Memetic and Affective Rhythms on the Post-Viral Web, On Psyop Realism, Reactionary Rhythm: Quali-quantitative studies of 4chan/pol/, Based and confused: Tracing the political connotations of a memetic phrase across the web

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