Unlocking the Real OODA Loop: Cybernetics, AI, and Epstein's Hidden Connections

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Neuroscientist Sean Manion discusses the connections between cybernetics, AI, and Epstein's influence on cognitive science.

Send us Fan Mail Strange bedfellows keep shaping the future of intelligence. Neuroscientist Sean Manion joins Brian "Ponch" Rivera to start with a canceled consciousness conference tied to Epstein disclosures, then unravels the threads: cybernetics' origins in Wiener’s teleology and Macy meetings, Boyd’s OODA Loop as a cybernetic descendant, AI’s engineering dominance sidelining broader systems thinking, and Epstein/Brockman networks influencing cognitive science. We critique LLM reliability ...

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Hosts: Brian "Ponch" Rivera, Mark McGrath

Guest: Sean Manion

Topics covered

• cybernetics
• AI
• OODA Loop
• cognitive science
• intelligence
• Epstein disclosures

Keywords

• OODA Loop
• cybernetics
• AI
• cognitive science
• Epstein
• intelligence
• neuroscience

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Organizations: Epstein, Boyd, Wiener, Macy, Brockman, AI, cognitive science

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